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    Posted: 10-05-2017 at 2:50am
Hallo friends, When the Level-D for Prepar3d V4 ?
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Originally posted by namco namco wrote:

Read this, it might help you...

http://www.leveldsim.com/forums/p3d-v4-compatibility_topic26556.html

That thread just says that it currently doesn't work with v4, it doesn't mention any intentions to make it compatible with v4.

Can any of the developers confirm concretely if it will be made to be compatible with v4? This would be helpful for both us as simmers and for LD in terms of sales, as if it's never going to happen I'll go to PMDG and blow £100 on their 777; but I don't want to do that if it turns out LD is quietly being adapted for v4!

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We do not announce plans, but v4 is a likely bet.
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Originally posted by DShutt DShutt wrote:

We do not announce plans, but v4 is a likely bet.


That is good to hear but here is the important part IMHO. ..uou must update the 3d cockpit textures or it won't sell.
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You see why we don't announce anything? ;-)
Duly noted.
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Originally posted by DShutt DShutt wrote:

You see why we don't announce anything? ;-)
Duly noted.


I see now...

Thanks for the heads up, that's great to hear.
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Just update the 767 before I die.
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Oh, okay. How old are you and how much time do we have?
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Well lets see here,..... I think I was 22 years old when the Level D 757 was announced for development....... I'm now One Hundred and Three yrs old

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Well, three things...

1. I would be curious if Level-D is still developing software.

2. If so, will there be a v4 capable sim? (Yes, I read the reply about not posting plans, but I haven't purchased your product yet and won't until I know if it will support the sim platform I have migrated to)

3. Are there any plans for a 757? If not, can you confirm there are no plans so that a different sim developer who is currently creating models can do it?

There's no benefit to the community for a publisher "sitting on" a model that prevents it from potentially being commercially viable if created by a second publisher.

Thanks!

P.S. I may have a bet saying that LDS WILL create an updated v4 fleet, so I am hoping you do it... aside from having to buy someone a competing product, I can't stand it when he is right and I am wrong.
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The post above used to be two things...
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I've corrected the error in my post to read three.
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I've corrected my post as well.
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Any news regarding v4?

Its hard to use the sim without a good 767...
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Agreed
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Well, Here is my situation. I've been using the LDS 767 since 2008 and have been very happy with the product and service. I haven't liked FSX or the limitations on screens.
We have updated our computers and have moved to P3D and have changed the aircraft to a competitor's Boeing. This aircraft has modern avionics, which I like but lacks the 2D panels that LDS have created. I don't like virtual cockpits nor the framerate hit. 
I'm eagerly awaiting (but not nagging) the V4 P3D edition of my loyal LDS 767. 
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It's tough being a 767 chief pilot on P3D 4.3 with no 767 to fly. Cry
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Not that I know anything specific but I wouldn’t count on 2d panels in a p3dv4 version of this product and, frankly imho those are a dead issue nowadays anyhow.
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Level D is working on a 757 i think as they have confirmed that... Its not the smartest move IMHO as there is one already. But no 767. It would make more sense working on something that people want and need rather than whats already available....
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Yes I would definitely buy an updated LDS 763 for p3dv4 but not a 757
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I would buy the 757 and re-buy the 767. Really hoping for an upgrade to v4.
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Originally posted by elmucki elmucki wrote:

Level D is working on a 757

Keep in mind, 757 posts here go back to fs9 days, and the farthest searchable come up with 2008-ish posts deriding forum members' inquiries into its progress. So, entering "beta" as announced and "previewed" in Las Vegas this year should be viewed in the perspective of the timing of the 757 project overall.... Wink
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Originally posted by sddjd sddjd wrote:

Originally posted by elmucki elmucki wrote:

Level D is working on a 757


Keep in mind, 757 posts here go back to fs9 days, and the farthest searchable come up with 2008-ish posts deriding forum members' inquiries into its progress. So, entering "beta" as announced and "previewed" in Las Vegas this year should be viewed in the perspective of the timing of the 757 project overall.... Wink


Actually it was announced at FlightSimCon back on June 2017.
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Hi together,
 
Daryl, I'm sorry, that I'm back again. I know it was very hard with me and the Win10 issue to be solved. Finally it was successful and that's really great. Unfortunately we all spend a lot of time in discussions, which were unnecessary.
 
Now we have the first successor version with 64 Bit which improves in such a way, that certainly every FSX user is cheering now. All (graphical) memory limitations and hours of fine tuning in config files after a crashed 12 hours flight and with side effects seem to be over now.
 
Nearly. Looking into the compatibility lists for my big amount of addons (airports, airliner, weather engine, ground services, PAX simulation, ai traffic) I only found one very important product/aircraft, which isn't ready for this important update. That's bad and I'm sorry, but my first thought was "Oh my god, not again like the WIN10 issue".
 
It's the first time, I'm convinced to switch from FSX to P3D now, but I can't! The B767-300ER fleet is too important to retire it. There are vendors like FSDT who migrated over 20 products until first day of P3D-V4 deployment.
 
Level-D migrated to P3D-V3 which is nice for all P3D-V3 users not having a FSX version. But the most important step will be the migration to 64 Bit now to get rid of that 32-Bit restrictions annoying everyone since years.
 
Even if you can't improve the graphics in a first step, just recompile it with 64-Bit, so we can use it as it is in a quality we are currently happy about in FSX environment. And no, that's not such a big deal. I migrated all my C++ applications to 64 Bit too and it's not such difficult. In a second step you may improve the entire aircraft and yes, I'm sure most customers will charge such a version 2.x with current technology. I definitely would pay for it. Just have a look at PMDG B747-400 V3, that's future technology in real manner.
 
It's important, that we all get the chance to operate this awesome aircraft in a 64 Bit environment, where the resource requirements of a PMDG and high resolution airports will be achieved.
 
It would be really nice to get a timeline just for orientation.
 
Regards,
Stefan
 
 
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It would be nice to at least get a "yes" or "no" from the developers on the question of whether LevelD will make the 767 P3Dv4 compatible or not. I for one would gladly pay for the upgrade as I understand that some work is required.

No answer, or equivocation, means to me that they will *not* be doing this.

It makes no sense to me to refuse to answer a simple, reasonable question.  I'm not asking for a timeline, just a "yes" or "no".

Thank you.

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Here the same, allmost a year ago i did buy P3Dv4 as a follow up for FSX. Hoping that the 64 bits LevelD would be come available soon. But sadly it still isn't there. And yes I have no problem paying for this upgrade.

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It is odd that there is no official word on this issue.
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there was... they stated a 757 is in the works. They gave their stance on v4. So what are you looking for?
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Originally posted by elmucki elmucki wrote:

there was... they stated a 757 is in the works. They gave their stance on v4. So what are you looking for?

Mower's probably looking for what just about every other LevelD customer over the past decade also seeks- something more concrete that "it's in the works, stop asking". It's not unreasonable to request something indicating that it's an ongoing concern rather than a project that gets a bit of attention once or twice on occasion (supported by the current time line). It's also firmly in LevelD's rights to not provide such info. Current and potential customers make their own choices accordingly.

Those of us using their products since fs9 days are very familiar with this interaction, and it's been hashed over a million times. Newer buyers may not be resigned to the official position that the 757 might arrive some year in the future and the 767 may or may not... ever. 


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Originally posted by dv447 dv447 wrote:

It would be nice to at least get a "yes" or "no" from the developers on the question of whether LevelD will make the 767 P3Dv4 compatible or not.


I fully agree.

I visit this forum every two weeks to find out if there is an update on x64.
I also started with FS9 version and the P3D v.3 update made me happy. But now as I have completely switched to P3D v4 I am missing the LevelD 767 a lot. And yes, as a customer who would pay the full price again for a LevelD B767/x64 I feel that a statement about x64 would only be fair. I would not blame the developers if they had no ressources for redoing the 76 or if they decided not to migrate for commercial reasons. But month after month I find it more and more difficult to accept that they are refusing to make a statement at all. Just to make this clear: I am also NOT expecting a timeline.

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Sorry to say it, just have a look at the discussions with Windows 8.x / Windows 10, it took over 2 years and deep system investigations by paying customers to increase pressure because there were a lot of cracked versions running without problems. It was because of the DRM and after hard discussions, they solved it. That was fine, but the discussions showed a huge lack of customer orientation. There are excuses or even no response, "wait until we are ready" after two years of waiting. It's just always the same, it's sad, but it is as it is!
 
I fear, there isn't any improvement in customer orientation and finding a common solution most people are satisfied with.
 
Yes I'm looking for a good B757 too, but regarding this repeating discussions without any signal of "lessons learned", I don't spend additional money to get that trouble again with a B757.
 
Paying for a P3DV4 yes, new products with such a customer experience, unfortunately no!
 
So I asked another developer to publish a B767-300 and B757-300 because of their innovations seen in the past and especially the last 3 years. I don't want to waste my time any longer with discussions that I want to pay for a 64-Bit version, where nearly all other developers updated there products in reasonable time near the publishing date of P3D 64-Bit solution which solves nearly all of our known problems.
 
Additional I don't wait with migration to 64-Bit any longer, because I want to get rid of OOM's operating my B747-400 in detailed environment with realistic weather engine and live traffic. I don't want to optimize FSX any longer in deep settings to avoid such trouble after 11 hours of flight and reducing the capabilities of my expensive graphics card. I'm back end of 2018, if there's no solution, then the B767 will be finally retired until another developer deploys a new one.
 
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