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    Posted: 08-22-2011 at 3:19am

are the spoilers up or was it that windy?
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The pilot is just giving it left aileron input on takeoff to compensate for crosswind, which will also activate the spoilerons on that side. Normal, and happens with the simulated 767 too.
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Awesome video,it looked like a lot of ran.
 
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i understand what you mean, but i never saw it been deployed that much during a crosswind take off
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i just checked it again, it looks like the spoiler were able to come down a little during lift off 
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It seems that the pilot inadvertently applied a bit too much aileron correction on that takeoff. The plane is powerful enough to overcome it, but the takeoff data is no longer good if the spoilers are deployed on one side.

It must have been a heck of a crosswind though.
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Wouldn't have got me on that aircraft in that storm. I'd have stayed at the terminal. The aircraft obviously departed safely - but only just.
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Usually at this rate, the airport would have suspended its flight services, but the pilots deployed the spoliers temporarily so the aircraft stayed in contact with the ground at all time until lift off. A good tactic when winds and rain are high.
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Originally posted by MickeyET7 MickeyET7 wrote:

Usually at this rate, the airport would have suspended its flight services, but the pilots deployed the spoliers temporarily so the aircraft stayed in contact with the ground at all time until lift off. A good tactic when winds and rain are high.
 
Not only did the crew NOT deploy the spoilers temporarily, but that would not be a GOOD nor an APPROVED technique for takeoff in ANY weather condition.  Simple systems knowledge tells you that the "on-side" spoilers assist in roll control.  Since crosswind technique requires aileron input, you are seeing the on side spoilers assist in roll control, used for directional control during the takeoff run. 
 
And an airport doesn't just shut down unless there's extreme weather, like a tornado.  An individual airline (as determined by the airline) would suspend operations in certain weather conditions.  Usually in hail or winds exceeding specific velocities. 
 
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I'd question if it was safe to depart, but as for "inadvertently applying too much aileron" - I think it is more a case of "he applied what he felt was necessary".

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